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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 03:28:00 -
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WHAT THE **** IS THIS ****???
Any _SANE_ revamp would have aimed at making it easier to crosstrain, having base ship type skills with race-specific specialization.
So that if you train for frigates which improves your frigate skills in general, you got skills for frigates but need to train e.g. Caldari frigates to be able to fly the caldari ones and get bonuses. There would thus be a backbone of ship skills that makes it easier for veteran players to cross over to other races. (The race specific skills would of course require training the lower race ship types)
Instead you've made it so that anyone who wants to try out e.g. another race's BC they'll need to start off as if they're a newbie.
What next, make sharpshooter, tracking, etc, skills for every single weapon type?
Again, **** this **** and how did you get it past the CSM?
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 03:57:00 -
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Silath Slyver Silverpine wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:WHAT THE **** IS THIS ****???
Any _SANE_ revamp would have aimed at making it easier to crosstrain, having base ship type skills with race-specific specialization.
Why? You're training completely different ships for each race. Different radar types. Different propulsion. Different armor and shield systems. Look at it like this; just because a pilot is trained to fly an F-22 doesn't mean he's going to be able to fly a MiG-35. Yeah, they're both fighter jets. They both use a flightstick. That's about where the similarities end.
Yes, and that is why you would need the racial specialization skills.
However someone flying an F-22 trying a MiG-35 would be much more skilled than someone flying a 787 trying out a MiG-35.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 04:07:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Yes, and that is why you would need the racial specialization skills.
However someone flying an F-22 trying a MiG-35 would be much more skilled than someone flying a 787 trying out a MiG-35. Well, actually neither one would be able to get it off the ground.
Reading is hard~~~
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 10:25:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Edit: having BCs crosstrainable in a week or 2 is a huge help too when you have to comply with fleet doctrines.
This is very much the central issue of this revamp.
What we're getting according to the devblog is a segregation of players according to race trained, making it much more difficult for someone to try out ships from other races at a competitive level.
This will make life for new alliance grunts hell.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.08 02:55:00 -
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Well, at least this will give me more SP in my unallocated pool (atm some 4.5M or so) and something to train...
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
754
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Posted - 2012.03.09 06:34:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote: Q: can we opt out for skills we don't want during the reimbursement process?
A: well, again, it depends on how it is done. We may just bluntly give all four variants at V if you had battlecruiser V for example, or maybe require that you also add the relevant Cruiser skill trained at level 3 to be eligible. On the latter case, just don't train the cruiser 3 skill, and you should not receive the new racial battlecruiser at 5. Not sure why one would do that however, it's like skipping free candy or cake while visiting your grandma.
Example:
If we go for option 1: you will get Amarr, Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar Battlecruiser skills at 5 if you previously had the generic Battlecruiser skill at 5.
If we go for option 2: you will get Amarr Battlecruiser skill at 5 only if you previously fulfilled all conditions to fly Amarr Battlecruisers, which means having the generic Battlecruiser skill at 5, PLUS the Amarr Cruiser at 3.
To remind it again, there are other options to consider, but no matter which one which choose, you won't lose anything out of the skill reimbursement plan.
You do realize that suddenly adding 6 million SP to everyone who happens to have 4 racial cruisers at 3 is rather broken?
It's going to cause huge amount of whine due to unfairness, and the first option of giving it to everyone will cause huge amount of whine from people who suddenly have to pay more for their clones.
If you're going to do this then do it like a man, reimburst the BC skill and inject the racial BC skills for anyone who is eligible. Then they can choose which racial BC to put SP into, and train up the rest at their own leisure.
It's not like I'm at a loss as to what to train anyway.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.09 07:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:You do realize that suddenly adding 6 million SP to everyone who happens to have 4 racial cruisers at 3 is rather broken? Aside from them suddenly having much more expensive clones, what's broken about it?
The... uhm... what you said.
And also there's going to be a lot of players who don't receive the boost, and if CCP announces it with enough time to train up then people will be driven to skilling something just in order to get included.
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